关于营养学历史的问题请教张功耀先生

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下面引用由张功耀在 2006/06/01 04:46pm 发表的内容：
大学期间在医学院学过五年医学.其中学习中医学一年,那时对中医感兴趣,居然每次考试总在前3名. 曾在某三甲医院实习过半年中医科,最大的遗憾就是对于各种脉象无法理解(除数脉以外,数脉也就是现代医学的心动过速).

[color=#0000FF]这么说，阁下是中医还未曾入门？
您是深刻的理解了中医，而去批判否定它，还是因为您未学明白中医，或者说中医不曾让您弄明白，就去批判否定它？
无知者无畏，的确是人类社会中一个客观存在的、普遍的规律。

老山羊

下面引用由南京陈斌在 2006/06/01 05:14pm 发表的内容：
这么说，阁下是中医还未曾入门？
您是深刻的理解了中医，而去批判否定它，还是因为您未学明白中医，或者说中医不曾让您弄明白，就去批判否定它？
无知者无畏，的确是人类社会中一个客观存在的、普遍的规律。

支持先生所说！
总算明白什么叫“信口开河”。

老山羊

下面引用由张功耀在 2006/06/01 04:46pm 发表的内容：
最难忘的是辉瑞公司伟哥(viagra)的临床试验结果. 参与者700人,200多人服用安慰剂(placebo),400余人服用伟哥. 出乎意料的是安慰剂组65%的病人称有效!!!

怪不得张功耀“教瘦”反中医的态度如同病人服用伟哥一样坚硬！！！

逸湘

"对流行病学有过粗浅的学习. 最大的收获就是对统计学的真正理解和认识. 参加过药物的双盲随机对照多中心研究,对于药物的疗效的判定标准查过一些文献. 最难忘的是辉瑞公司伟哥(viagra)的临床试验结果. 参与者700人,200多人服用安慰剂(placebo),400余人服用伟哥. 出乎意料的是安慰剂组65%的病人称有效!!!"
這就是科學實驗的盲點
一般統計
安慰劑效應約有30%
但是伟哥(viagra)治的病本就有許多心理因素
而且實驗如果是以病人"称有效"為驗證
又加上許多心理因素

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我个人非常想看到你对现代营养学发展历程的看法。
“我提出的问题，是与您的研究最接近的问题。至少要比中医学接近。我想看到您的观点。”
提得好！望张教授能认真回答。中医药界的朋友们想听一听教授对中医药的高论呢！虽然我知道他是反中医的人。看了他的高论，也许我们就知道他是否有真才实学了！
因此我认为：论坛不要禁止其发言。
  

苏忠伟

[这个贴子最后由苏忠伟在 2009/01/13 10:07am 第 1 次编辑]

“最难忘的是辉瑞公司伟哥(viagra)的临床试验结果. 参与者700人,200多人服用安慰剂(placebo),400余人服用伟哥. 出乎意料的是安慰剂组65%的病人称有效!!!”
服用洋药（伟哥）的致残作用已见报道，教授应该知道吧？

苏忠伟

“这么说，阁下是中医还未曾入门？cG
&copy;全球中医药论坛 -- 全球中医药论坛　　XA?bl
您是深刻的理解了中医，而去批判否定它，还是因为您未学明白中医，或者说中医不曾让您弄明白，就去批判否定它？4
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